Because women rarely ask men out.Dont you think the rule whoever aks pays is kinda off and unfair to men? ? -

I mean most(not all) women even in relationships will be taken out by their boyfriend or a potential boyfriend and then after the date they will wait for him to call her to setup another date instead calling him to setup the date. Women say that s traditionally the way courtship is done. Well back when women didn t invite their boyfriend out on dates women didn t have the opportunities to earn money like women do now so guys had to pay every date. That isn t the case anymore so in my opinion women are taken advantage and what worse is men are tolerating it out of ignorance and/or lack of confidence to stand up to a women and treat her like a respected peer not a princess on a pedestal and not lure her in with his wallet but his personality, sincere charm, edgyness, humor, and of course sexiness. Dates from the beginning should be DUTCH, until they are a committed couple and then a U PAY NEXT ILL PAY system when they are a committed couple. That way if a relationship doesnt work b4 commitment nobody wasted unnecessary money. And if the relationship does work out itll show that yall can support each other/ not taken advantage of each other/show that you are serious about you partner. What do yall think about this ?|::::|I think the rule is just fine, where if you ask someone, you should be prepared to pay, although they may offer to go dutch or pick up the bill. But then, I also think a woman should ask a man out if she wants to go out with him, instead of waiting and hoping he ll notice her. I don t know why some women and even teenage girls think they can t do this. Also, I ve never in my life gone anywhere expensive for a first date, so it s really kind of a non-issue in my life. I never cared who picked up the tab for 2 cups of coffee, and usually got my own, I think. But if somebody had asked me out to a fancy restaurant when I was a broke student, I would have expected him to pay. And if I wasn t able to afford a fancy restaurant, I wouldn t invite him out to one.|::::|It s not really a rule. Most women would rather be asked out by a guy, then ask a guy out. Well, most women I know anyway. Its just...nicer. But then again, some women do ask men out. There shouldn t be a problem with that either.|::::|Yes as you said it is basically tradition for some couples to have 1 sex pay. But times are beginning to change, call our era the Age of Enlightenment(Part 2 since we had another one in the past)|::::|When I first started dating my husband, (we were teenagers) it was almost always me that paid for our dates. I was an only child of a single successful mother. He was the oldest of six kids whose mother had just left her abusive husband and was on welfare, going to school full time. My husband s after school job helped pay for toilet paper, shampoo, diapers for his youngest brother and other items not covered on food stamps, and for gas in his mothers car so she could get back and forth to school. I got an allowance, and that s the money we d use to go out on dates. I have no problems with it.|::::|That s not even a rule I ve heard. I reach for my wallet (yeah I dont have a purse :P) on a date, though sometimes my partner will stop me. I dont insist, if a guy stops me, but that is because I consider it impolite to do so. But I will pay, if he doesnt stop me. And I would ask a guy out too. So basically yeah, I agree with you.|::::|It s not quot;women.quot; It s SOME women. I ve asked guys out or been the one to call. I have no problem with doing that nor do I think there should be a problem with the woman being the initiator. I also agree that the quot;you pay here, I ll pay therequot; method is best for dates (meaning one pays for diner, the other the movie, that sort of thing). Sorry to say but you rant in this day and age just isn t necessary. Many woman are the ones doing the asking and MANY women are now either paying for half the date or making a real effort to offer to pay (some guys honestly won t let you pay. Really. It can get crazy). Of course, I m a feminist so I believe in equal treatment in the dating game--as do most of the women I hang out with. Perhaps you just need to date normal feminists more?|::::|Never heard of that, but yeah, I think it is unfair that men pay most of the time, or they are expected to pay. But not all girls are like that. I don t like it when my boyfriend tries to buy me things. And I try to convince him to let me pay for my half. Some guys, I guess, think that they should pay, because it is quot;traditionquot; to pay.|::::|No not at all. .. It s not quot;kindaquot; unfair and hypocritical-- it s blatantly done. Women know exactly what they re doing. It s up to men to counter whether than just willingly accept whatever they say in the hopes that they have fairness and equality in mind- which it s obvious they don t.|::::|Before I was married, I thought this when I went on dates and tried to pay for myself. I ended up insulting several men for some reason. I don t get it, but if that s how they feel, they can pay. I tried.